nikkaphon:

shaloved30:

nikkaphon:

Wow does Davis West have Charley’s number in this episode

I don’t begrudge him the point about logic either. He’s known Charley her whole adult life and knows how her mind works. They were married for 18 years.

It’s definitely the case that Charley will be persuaded by a good argument, and I think she’d present herself as someone motivated primarily by logic. It’s just that she also makes decisions based on her affective reactions to things. In a decision like this Davis is absolutely right that Micah’s going to need to be able to present evidence that public school would be best for him…except in the end, she decides based on how the experiences he describes resonate with hers. That’s not illogical or divorced from logic, obvs; drawing on her experience and knowledge of the world is highly logical. It’s just that she’s…motivated by love and logic at once? She was persuaded of the affective value of changing schools, and while her thought process was logical, I wouldn’t say Micah’s argument at that moment was logical in the way (I think) Davis meant. And elsewhere in the show she makes so many decisions motivated by regret and love – the basic choice to stay in Louisiana (and the way I think she made it) was in many ways not a particularly logical one. Idk, sorry this is so long, I’m trying to think through it. I guess part of my reaction is just that you can’t make a decision based on logic exclusively; a logical decision if your goal is the emotional well-being of your child might be different from a logical decision if your goal is the material well-being (I’m not sure the trappings of wealth should be described as “well-being” but idk how to phrase it) of your child. (And I think Charley defaults to the latter, not because she doesn’t care about the former, just because of habit/how she was raised and because it’s harder to judge and measure, and, well, Charley likes logic and measurable outcomes? But the way Micah succeeds is by getting her–not exactly with an argument–to consider the former as relevant data as well.) I think I interpreted Davis’ line as saying “so tell her how it’ll help you get into the best schools and have optimal material outcomes” rather than “so prepare a flowchart-style argument about how it’ll improve your affective well-being.” But that wasn’t necessarily what Davis said, though I do think it was a reasonable inference from the context of the conversation they were having.

Anyway, the concept of logic has now ceased to have any meaning to me lmao

Him walking in like “did you have anything to do with that video being leaked” though I definitely grinned. I don’t love Davis, but I’m glad the show has a person who knows Charley in a way her family still doesn’t. So despite the length of this I don’t disagree with any of your response lol and I’m going to backtrack the logic thing a little. But at the same time, I do bet that what Davis thinks would motivate Charley may be a little out of date. I think she’d have reacted differently in California.

OK, haha re this last sentence. I’m sure a lot has been added now to her thinking process and that’s much because of Davis, like doubt and other things his betrayals have no doubt added since so yes on that. He does still know her and for as much as we all can’t with him like you said, it’s good to have.